TOPIC:

Re the boat 6694 as someone said boat could have had newer sails

which is right..

Fact boat a frosrite

boat No. found on thwart under coats of paint.

NOW No. Read from transom reads 1999.

Read from bow 6661. HELP can anybody throw light on the number..

Thanks Alan

West Kirby now has 12 boats..

That reminds me of the old Joke:

Attendant 1: "Come in number 6661, your time is up"

Attendant 2: "We dont have a 6661"

Attendant 1: "Number 1999, are you in trouble?"

Norman Halstead can you help?

I'm here! Working on a slightly different time regime, but here none the less (I'm in Malta).

Well first of all, I'm surprised to hear of the number being on the thwart, and not etched into the hog (which I thought was compulsory). I'm therefore still not sure that we have the right number.

That having been said, either of the numbers are actually viable given the dates - Fosrite were making boats over that entire period (1999 would have been built in 1971, 6661 in 1978). I have very little knowledge of Fosrite boats, but I'm sure there must be someone out there who can identify a rough age from the picture since construction evolution probably led to some identifiable changes.

Neither number shows up on the RYA register.

A couple of things lead me to a personal opinion. Firstly my failing memory believes I've sailed against 6661 in the States. I think it was a Woof called "Beast of Burden" although someone might put me right on that. Also in the early '70s numbers tended to get issued in blocks to builders, and 1999 is smack in the middle of a Fosrite block of numbers. For these reasons I'd favour the earlier number, but there's nothing definitive about it, and as I said earlier, it could easily be something completely different!

Sorry if this isn't much help...

The thwart is a valid place for the sail number:
Rule:

D.2.5 IDENTIFICATION
(a) The hull shall display the sail number either cut into or permanently marked on either the hog, transom or thwart in figures minimum 25mm high.

Unfortunately the rule does not specify which way round the number goes.

I guess there are no serifs on the "1" to determine which way is up?

Norman - "Beast of Burden" is sail number 6660
(see albacore.ca/archive/results.php?f3=2000/usnats2000.html )

Close but no coconut... I knew someone would put me right, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

My money remains on 1999 until someone comes up with better evidence.

The boat looks like a Grimsby dock boat, possibly previously called Man-al-go. My brothers owned A6501 a Dave linton fosrite. I can't recall any fosrite with 1999, all the ones that were in Grimsby were between 58xx and possibly upto 66xx. Mike MAC may know more. There was quite a few un registered ones, but with hull numbers.

Best wishes

Phil

Hi Phil

I purchased the boat from Coates Lincoln which ties in with

your thoughts..

alan

"My money remains on 1999 until someone comes up with better evidence"

The hull number on our Fairey Alb. is stamped into the hog, (958) and is definately read from the transom, so as 1999 is the number read from the transom, I suspect that is the normal way to inscribe the number.

We have been told that the hull number in the early boats is not the sail number, so we still do not know for sure what our sail number should be, so for now we think it is 784 as the sails that came with the boat indicate.

Well well well

I think you all know it's not 6694, which is a pity .....
Here's some history on 6694

1978 "Ferret" 7th Russell Wane
1979 "Mr Magsa" 20th Keith Caush
1980 "Mr Magsa" 12th Keith Caush
1983 "Sticky Fingers" 29th T. Lunn
1984 "Sticky Fingers" 30th T. Lunn
1985 "Sticky Fingers" 12th T. Lunn (Worlds 102 entries)
1990 "Revival" 15th Richard Watkinson
1991 "Revival" 47th Stuart Pearson (Worlds 77 entries)
1995 "Soupey Twist" 23rd Simon Challen

Not been at a Nationals since 95 which is a pity for a boat with this pedigree, does anyone know where 6694 is?
Not that I need another boat!

Derek
7176 Katsie Weightsie
and a couple of others!
ps neither 1999 or 6661 have ever been to a Nationals that I can see.